OMF:BG Message Board Forum Index OMF:BG Message Board
One Must Fall: Battlegrounds
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

OMF: BG Data Mining begins...

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    OMF:BG Message Board Forum Index -> Off Topic
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Malfrex
Ancient One


Joined: 27 Jul 2000
Posts: 2098
Location: Vancouver, BC/Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:29 am    Post subject: OMF: BG Data Mining begins... Reply with quote

So by using a VirtualBox VM I was able to find a way to get OMF: BG running in it with 3D acceleration.

Steps:
1) Download/install VirtualBox
2) create XP VM; install 7zip or similar
3) download http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.6/VBoxGuestAdditions_4.3.6.iso to VM
4) extract extras from ISO
5) restart VM in safe mode, install extras

Install OMF:BG, patch, all the fun stuff. Yes, you still have to run through the stupid tutorial on first run...

As I have the editor I've started to pick apart the pilots as they're the easiest to get to. I've saved out their images, recorded their base stats/colors/bios. Google Docs spreadsheets are stupid when it comes to images so they aren't in there right now...

I only have only a half dozen or so there, but its something for reference. As for the bio author aspect, I have some docs on hand still for some unknown reason (like how I still have the patches/editor) that contains a list of all the pilots along with who's bio submission they were going forward with. In the final game, some are near copies, others are altered but have the core idea (partial credit) and others are completely different. You can choose to ignore this part, if you want. I'm leaving the doc in read-only state for now, at least until I get it to a better state.

Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahm57sCEbXzadGlvcDVCQW9wY3o3NVdfbEY4Q01RUFE&usp=sharing
_________________
I'm not crazy, I'm sanity-challenged.

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
i7 3770k (will OC @4.5Ghz)
2x8GB G.SKILL DDR3-2600
MSI 7970 3GB
Crucial M4 128GB
~10.9TB RAID 5 (4x 4TB)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number
katajakasa
OpenOMFdev


Joined: 17 Jan 2013
Posts: 67

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! I'm surprised that virtualbox direct3d passthrough/emulation is actually good enough to do this.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
raptor
Ancient One


Joined: 02 Sep 1999
Posts: 4518
Location: Sandefjord, Norway

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Impressive, so it is actually possible for people to play omfbg again ?

I see that Christians text certainly has changed a bit from what I remember, and what I've seen. Also kind of funny to see that they have classified Angel as Alien :)
_________________
- Jon Eirik * www.omf2097.com * www.omf2097.com/wiki * www.omf2097.com/chat -
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger ICQ Number
Malfrex
Ancient One


Joined: 27 Jul 2000
Posts: 2098
Location: Vancouver, BC/Canada

PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found some web code that'll let me pretty-fy this... I'll see what I can do. Once I get the base webcode together I'll just have to update it all in a database and it'll generate the tables. However, it also means I should get around to rebuilding my web server, which I've been putting off.
_________________
I'm not crazy, I'm sanity-challenged.

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
i7 3770k (will OC @4.5Ghz)
2x8GB G.SKILL DDR3-2600
MSI 7970 3GB
Crucial M4 128GB
~10.9TB RAID 5 (4x 4TB)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number
Malfrex
Ancient One


Joined: 27 Jul 2000
Posts: 2098
Location: Vancouver, BC/Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, I have this in a database now: http://24.84.238.79/OMF/Pilots/pilot.php

Still need to finish collecting all the pilots but everything is in place to make it do what I want to. As well, I have code to generate pilot "icons" from the data that'll be pretty and viewable.

Preview of the "quick view" version of the icon tab:
_________________
I'm not crazy, I'm sanity-challenged.

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
i7 3770k (will OC @4.5Ghz)
2x8GB G.SKILL DDR3-2600
MSI 7970 3GB
Crucial M4 128GB
~10.9TB RAID 5 (4x 4TB)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number
raptor
Ancient One


Joined: 02 Sep 1999
Posts: 4518
Location: Sandefjord, Norway

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noticed there is quite a lot of pilots I've never even seen before heh.

Did notice some weird numbers, one of the pilots was listed as having 200 endurance (Dawn), don't know if it is a typo, mess up in the script or if the game just plain cheated. :)

The "pilot summary" pictures is a cool idea, though I don't think the obvious omf2097 look to them fit the omfbg theme, and I do feel they are way to large, and could perhaps be compressed a bit ? Hmm, I'm not a graphic designer by any stretch, it just seems a bit off, sorry.
_________________
- Jon Eirik * www.omf2097.com * www.omf2097.com/wiki * www.omf2097.com/chat -
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger ICQ Number
Malfrex
Ancient One


Joined: 27 Jul 2000
Posts: 2098
Location: Vancouver, BC/Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fine with redesigning the colors etc to fit OMF:BG, I just figured I'd go with the 2097 ascetic for now. I'd likely just change the color palette Smile

Dawn is a typo... I'll fixed it. Generated for the pilots I have done so far; I'll get the rest added by the end of the week likely.

http://24.84.238.79/OMF/Pilots/
_________________
I'm not crazy, I'm sanity-challenged.

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
i7 3770k (will OC @4.5Ghz)
2x8GB G.SKILL DDR3-2600
MSI 7970 3GB
Crucial M4 128GB
~10.9TB RAID 5 (4x 4TB)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number
Malfrex
Ancient One


Joined: 27 Jul 2000
Posts: 2098
Location: Vancouver, BC/Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably could just edit my existing post but anyways...

All pilots now added, including a few that didn't actually make it into the final game per-se.

Graphical version:
http://24.84.238.79/OMF/Pilots/

Table version:
http://24.84.238.79/OMF/Pilots/pilot.php


Fun factoids:
BIOs
***for this part I have a list of the BIOs submissions from when they requested them. Partial matches were marked when at least half of the sentences used were from the submitters' entry. Whole credit was given if all of the used bio was from their submission, excluding a few syntax changes. In these cases there was actually a *MORE* detailed bio submitted.***
- 20 of my submissions were used
- 5 of Killer Roach's submissions were used
- 3 of Spockmeat's submissions were used
- 3 of Peter's (???) submissions were used
- 2 of Juan's (???) submissions were used
- 1 of Element-Fire's submissions were used
- 19 were from DE or unknown origin

Sex
- 19 Female
- 37 Male
- 1 Undefined (Throck is the first genderless Human in a game!)

Race
- 2 aliens
- 2 animals (go go Ape-Tech/Flipper 8000!!!!)
- 2 cyborgs (one male, one female)
- 51 Humans

Other Random Factoids:
- Jeremiah is the ONLY pilot who's stats aren't divisible by 5 (12/55/75/58)
- all heroes have a total of 200 stat points
_________________
I'm not crazy, I'm sanity-challenged.

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
i7 3770k (will OC @4.5Ghz)
2x8GB G.SKILL DDR3-2600
MSI 7970 3GB
Crucial M4 128GB
~10.9TB RAID 5 (4x 4TB)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number
noobman



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Care to share your VM settings?

I'm almost up and running but get a SetupDirect3DContext() Failed error.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Malfrex
Ancient One


Joined: 27 Jul 2000
Posts: 2098
Location: Vancouver, BC/Canada

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have already downloaded and installed the extras into the VM you have to shut down the VM and turn on the 3D acceleration under the VM settings, which is what is likely causing your problems. Otherwise everything in my initial post is what I did to get it running.

I admittedly haven't had a lot of time to keep doing the data mining, but this should at least get you able to play the game.
_________________
I'm not crazy, I'm sanity-challenged.

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
i7 3770k (will OC @4.5Ghz)
2x8GB G.SKILL DDR3-2600
MSI 7970 3GB
Crucial M4 128GB
~10.9TB RAID 5 (4x 4TB)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number
Cyberman



Joined: 05 Aug 2001
Posts: 2762

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

noobman wrote:
Care to share your VM settings?

I'm almost up and running but get a SetupDirect3DContext() Failed error.

May be a useless question, but did you run the VM in fullscreen?
I just had a crash at startup because I did NOT run it in fullscreen...

--

Also: Yay! It runs. I can play OMF:BG again! Now if only I'd be online at a time where others are as well :-/
_________________
A wiki about klingon - the language
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number
Malfrex
Ancient One


Joined: 27 Jul 2000
Posts: 2098
Location: Vancouver, BC/Canada

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I was running it in a window - didn't even try full screen as I was trying to do the data mining across the VM and my actual machine Smile Which, admittedly, has come to a standstill due to me not having free time for *anything* and likely not having it for at least the next 6 months - kid #2 is due on Friday Smile

If more people try and get VMs running though, you could try and coordinate via the IRC channel (does that still exist?) or something like that. Or stalk people on facebook/gChat. I think most of you are over in Europe though...
_________________
I'm not crazy, I'm sanity-challenged.

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
i7 3770k (will OC @4.5Ghz)
2x8GB G.SKILL DDR3-2600
MSI 7970 3GB
Crucial M4 128GB
~10.9TB RAID 5 (4x 4TB)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number
katajakasa
OpenOMFdev


Joined: 17 Jan 2013
Posts: 67

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malfrex wrote:

If more people try and get VMs running though, you could try and coordinate via the IRC channel (does that still exist?)

#omf at Freenode. Also reachable through web interface. Welcome.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
takuban



Joined: 20 Mar 2003
Posts: 138
Location: South Florida

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll see if I can get this running on my system at home. It would be interesting to try to play it again.
_________________
Justin Oakley
Super Genius
Takuban Enterprises | Takuban Motorsports | Takuban Games | Drinking Weather
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Malfrex
Ancient One


Joined: 27 Jul 2000
Posts: 2098
Location: Vancouver, BC/Canada

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had updated to the latest version of VirtualBox (4.3.10, I was running 4.3.6 when I did my initial testing) and the 3D rendering seems like it's been improved a little bit. Although, I had also enabled VT-d in my BIOS so that might've helped as well... (had it disabled before).
_________________
I'm not crazy, I'm sanity-challenged.

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
i7 3770k (will OC @4.5Ghz)
2x8GB G.SKILL DDR3-2600
MSI 7970 3GB
Crucial M4 128GB
~10.9TB RAID 5 (4x 4TB)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message ICQ Number
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    OMF:BG Message Board Forum Index -> Off Topic All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

Style Blacker1 by Blacker47