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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

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Originally posted by YoungPuff:
Uh... Who's to blame?


ok... verry good. but who's to blame for WHAT?

and can you find the answer?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

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Originally posted by Loxen:
What annoys me is that people call it 'Nu-Metal' as if its some kind of revolution... "We reinvented metal!" So-called 'Nu-Metal' has only one thing that I can see in common with 'Real Metal' - And that is Distorted guitars.

Hell, they don't even have silly band member names!

Examples:
Behemoth:
Singer/Guitarist: Nergal
Guitarist: Havoc
Bassist: Novy
Drummer: Inferno

Dimmu Borgir:
Singer: ****rath (Stupid name )
Guitarist: Galder
2nd Guitarist: Silenoz
Synth: Mustis
Bass/Backing Vox: Vortex
Drummer: Nicholas (Really fits in...)

Emperor:
Guitarist/Singer: Ihsahn
Guitarist: Samoth
Drums: Trym
(Emperor aren't a live band, so I assume Ihsahn or Samoth does Bass during recording.)

Anyway - I've made my point.
Silly names rule



actually "nu-metal" has a whole lot of hardcore/thrash roots. if you listen to old testament, grind has a lot of slipknot roots... (slipknot dirives a lot of sound elements from old grind masters like carcass and cannibal corpse)
the problem i have with these sellouts (yeah that's right... sellouts) is that it's a fad... a whole fricken fad... like... the preps of metal... kinda like hardcore was for a while. it's really quite annoying. i always find myself targetting fad people in a pit. i just hate seing them attempt to participate in old school pits at concerts... just bash their frickin skulls in or somethin.

i hate it when people hear some of the structure of death and other metals and think it's nu metal just because it's heavy.
vastly superior and creative groups like training for utopia, crimson thorn, and many other great heavy groups are often misunderstood and called "nu-metal" or something equally as degrading. damn those who can't recognize true music goodness when they hear it.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2002 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

Blind Guardian - Nightfall

No sign of life did flicker
In floods of tears she cried
"All hope's lost it can't be undone
They're wasted and gone"

"Save me your speeches
I know (They blinded us all)
What you want
You will take it away from me
Take it and I know for sure
The light she once brought in
Is gone forevermore"

Like sorrowful seaguls they sang
"(We're) lost in the deep shades
The misty cloud brought
(A wailing when beauty was gone
Come take a look at the sky)
Monstrous it covered the shore
Fearful into the unknown"
Quietly it crept in new horror
Insanity reigned
And spilled the first blood
When the old king was slain

chorus:
Nightfall
Quietly crept in and changed us all
Nightfall
Quietly crept in and changed us all
Nightfall
Immortal land lies down in agony

"How long shall we
Mourn in the dark
the bliss and the beauty
Will not return
Say farewell to sadness and grief
Though long and hard the road may be"
But even in silence I heard the words
"An oath we shall swear
By the name of the one
Until the world's end
It can't be broken"

Just wondering how
I can still hear these voices inside

The doom of the Noldor drew near

The words of a banished king
"I swear revenge"
Filled with anger aflamed our hearts
Full of hate full of pride
We screamed for revenge

chorus

"Vala he is that's what you said
Then your oath's been sworn in vain
(But) freely you came and
You freely shall depart
(So) never trust the northern winds
Never turn your back on friends"

"Oh I'm heir of the high lord!"
"You better don't trust him"
The enemy of mine
Isn't he of your kind and
Finally you may follow me
Farewell
He said

chorus

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

so i guess my poetic pros reach to a higher state of intellect than is available here or something?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2002 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

it's too vague. But only barely so. If there was even one more real hint, we could guess. It was a great poem; it's only fault is that its author doesn't realize that not all people are the author. The imagery and metaphors, are jumbled, chaotic, confusing, and inconsistent. They come across as very sincere and worthy, but they need to be coherent.

If your poem/song on the other page was NOT about God, Jesus, Art, Rape, Music, Love, etc... ideals like those, the WTH is it about? Why do you give us riddles when there's not enough information to answer them? If your intent wasn't necessarily to let us know what it means, but to deliver a feeling or experience... trust me, it's "nice," but all I'm feeling is confusion.

[This message has been edited by Alexander de Large (edited 02-19-2002).]
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2002 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

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Originally posted by Alexander de Large:
it's too vague. But only barely so. If there was even one more real hint, we could guess. It was a great poem; it's only fault is that its author doesn't realize that not all people are the author. The imagery and metaphors, are jumbled, chaotic, confusing, and inconsistent. They come across as very sincere and worthy, but they need to be coherent.

If your poem/song on the other page was NOT about God, Jesus, Art, Rape, Music, Love, etc... ideals like those, the WTH is it about? Why do you give us riddles when there's not enough information to answer them? If your intent wasn't necessarily to let us know what it means, but to deliver a feeling or experience... trust me, it's "nice," but all I'm feeling is confusion.

[This message has been edited by Alexander de Large (edited 02-19-2002).]

no, you're not analyzing the lyrics... it's quite plain and simple... the world's address was much more difficult to break down. you have to take every stanza, every single line into context. if it wasn't written for purpose, it wouldn't be there.


become everything for their nothing (the first goal is to assign properties to vague identities such as "they" or "us" or "we" or "he" or "she" or anything that is not identifying who is responsible)(the saying everything for x nothing is used to express that you have done everything and changed and morphed all for a purpose that is so incredibly shallow, it is nothing)
become - dish out - cry revulsion(stages of change, passing the change to others, and relization)
you are made to be discarded, left suffering
(the very existance of the being that is personified as "you" is for the purpose of pain)
(you are so much more than they want)[identifies that there is some underlying potential to the entity of "you" that is lost to the entity of "they"]
(much more beautiful than they need)

And just for one second i wish you could see, what every body else knows you to be.[the first time we get to see the writer's thoughts first hand... the worry and anxiety are evident in the statement of "just for one second..."] expunge all the lies, efface the deceit. corruption has led you away from complete. expostulate reality. recalcitrate their society. substantiate your prodigy. revelling in your ascendancy.[look up the words you don't know... this part is pretty damn cool if you know what it means.]

A song infused to man. Betrayed destroyed again.[upon the character of correct grammer in poetry, the item that is 'betrayed, destroyed again' must be that wich is corresponding in stanza or subject, in this case: the song infused to man] The loss of innocence.[a simple statment within a mystery stanza generally issues the answer. in this case, the mystery song: is identified as innocence] You were so much more beautiful than they could believe. you were far beyond pure they couldn't percieve. Forgive me. [a confusing line that indicates the author had something to do with the song being betrayed and destroyed again]

Ruby liquid drips silently
you were left alone in perfect glory
i brought the world into your arms
and there they cut you and drank of your bones
forgive me.

an angel, fallen from heaven
and i took you in, into my wretched halls
the night wore on, heated, seering
i found you in the morn, cracked and bleeding
forgive me.


innocence bleeds a dying breed
withered body coalescing the beauty
i am the culprit standing there guilty
you are the victim failed completely
recalcitrate this society!

Recognize the source of the lies
Exorcise the lord of the flies
come, under my wing, i beg, let me comfort thee
come, silently, and let me take the brunt of the beating

and as i lay crushed and bleeding
i cry, i weep for your forgiveness
i couldn't withstand, i couldn't keep up my hands
and now you are ravaged and holy no more
forgive me.
recalcitrate this society.


that's all the hints you get from me... all of which should be identifiable if you research each stanza with the other stanzas.

have fun.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2002 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

First of all, ... .... crap... I know the definitions of all those words. I'm about the same age as Eternal Requiem.

I'm TRYING, AAAARRRRRGGGHHH. It better not involve birds.
I like the poem, but I just can't "get it" in the way you think I should. Sorry.

edit: okay, I read the whole post thru...

Something bad happens, misuse, violence, etc.
Someone feels guilty for it, realizes they've been participating or condoning or at least ignoring it.
That someone wants to make up for it, or change how things are done... or something like that.
There is knowledge that the source of the problem must be dealth with, even against popular opinion.
And... and I have no freakin' clue. There might be something in there about the "holiness of life"...

Tell you what: I think this is fun, so sorry if I seem a little frustrated at you. No offense meant. Once I figure this out, I will e-mail you one of my poems--sometimes I write, but not too well--and let you have a crack at it. (muahaha.. )

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2002 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

ok fine...

the question: who to blame?
the problem: the loss of innocence
the answer: "their society"
solution: recalcitrate their society
overview: the author brought innocence into his/her world of corruption and depravity. there the innocence was destroyed, ravaged... and lost. the author was asking after reviewing the tragic events, how did this happen? who was to blame? and came with the answer.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

Carcass are cool, Grindcore indeed.
But Cannibal Corpse appear to me as pure death metal... Devoured By Vermin and the like are DEATH METAL.
Whereas Carcass, with songs like Keep on Rotting in The Free World and Polarised, thats GOOD Grindcore for you

I'm not particularly a fan of Death Metal, I must say. I am much more into Black Metal.
Bands like Cannibal Corpse and Deicide IN MY OPINION are CLEARLY inferior to bands like Bathory, Behemoth, Dimmu Borgir, Emperor, Immortal, Darkthrone and the like.

Black Metal is the way to go babay

Hail Satan!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

Quote:
Originally posted by Loxen:
Carcass are cool, Grindcore indeed.
But Cannibal Corpse appear to me as pure death metal... Devoured By Vermin and the like are DEATH METAL.
Whereas Carcass, with songs like Keep on Rotting in The Free World and Polarised, thats GOOD Grindcore for you

I'm not particularly a fan of Death Metal, I must say. I am much more into Black Metal.
Bands like Cannibal Corpse and Deicide IN MY OPINION are CLEARLY inferior to bands like Bathory, Behemoth, Dimmu Borgir, Emperor, Immortal, Darkthrone and the like.

Black Metal is the way to go babay

Hail Satan!


heheh i was referring to earlier works of cannibal.

some other good grind groups: crimson thorn, vomitorial corpulence
my favorite two grind groups without a doubt are crimson thorn and carcass.

black metal really depends on the band. the best black metal i've heard is antestor-martyrium some seriously good stuff.

hmm... while we're on the subject... whats everyone's favorite gothemburg groups?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2002 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

Eric Idel - The Bright side of Life:
Some things in life are bad,
They can really make you mad,
Other things just make you swear and curse,
When you're chewing your life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle,
And this'll help things turn out for the best,

And.....
Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the light side of life.
[whistling]

If life seems jolly rotten,
There's something you've forgotten,
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps,
Don't be silly chumps.
Just purse your lips and whistle. That's the thing.

And...
Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the right side of life,
[whistling]

For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word.
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin.
Give the audience a grin.
Enjoy it. It's your last chance, anyhow.

So,...
Always look on the bright side of death,
[whistling]
Just before you draw your terminal breath.
[whistling]

Life's a piece of **** ,
When you look at it.
Life's a laugh and death's a joke. It's true.
You'll see it's all a show.
Keep 'em laughing as you go.
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.

And...
Always look on the bright side of life.
Always look on the right side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2002 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

words by Cindy Vanous, music Andrew McKee

A prudent thief should never drink so much that he becomes bold.
Because a thief who boasts and brags will rarely live to grow old.
For silence is a thief's best bet and if he breaks this etiquette.
Undoubtedly what he will get...will be more trouble than gold.

Consider Zhele a thief from Greel, who drank at the Swan and Grouse.
He made himself quite popular by buying rounds for the house.
One night in drunken revelry, he made a bet with prideful glee,
But later on he would agree...he never should've been soused.

A thief's best friends are luck and speed, alertness, cunning and stealth.
And ale can cause these all to flee and cheat a thief of his wealth.
But add to this a drunken dare to steal a lock of the Empress' hair,
Then even a fool should be aware...this may be bad for your health.

So Zhele did stumble through the door in his most fearless state.
He slipped in shadows past the guard and snuck through the palace gate.
Then giggling he scaled the wall so drunk he thought he could not fall.
For wasn't he the best of all...and surely favored by Fate.

As he climbed in he saw a girl who was dressed in cloth not fur.
A palace maid? Perhaps a cook? T'was difficult to be sure.
A homely lass she did appear, but anyone looks good through beer,
So when she asked, "Why are you here?"...he said he was there for her.

He showered her with compliments for flattery was his skill.
And so they spent a pleasant time as any young couple will.
But as the dawn lit their embrace, he recognized the lady's face
From every golden coin it graced...and suddenly he felt ill.

He'd heard that drink was dangerous and now he knew for a fact.
For theives caught in the palace were hanged or stretched upon a rack.
But as this thief was kind and bold, the empress gifted him with gold.
(Then the guard made sure that he'd been told...he'd be killed if he ever came back.)

And so he was a thief no more for that was part of the deal.
His bet was lost because she gave him what he went there to steal.
So other thieves may scorn and mock his name and tale but still they flock
For a drink and a look at the Empresses Lock... the finest tavern in Greel.

Heh, you can D/L the song from this page: <A HREF="http://thebards.net/music/lyrics/A_Prudent_Thief.shtml" TARGET=_blank>http://thebards.net/music/lyrics/A_Prudent_Thief.shtml</A>

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2002 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: Corrupt the youths of the OMFMB.. Reply with quote

Hehe, here's one for you:

Blood Axis and Les Joyaux De La Princesse: Symphonie Verte (In dos you can't even find the MP3 cause the filename is so long.)

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