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[Gila]

oh...well...fine.

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[Mogusha]

Gila seeing as there are many problems with the earning money to upgrade (IE hacking to get more money) I don't think that that would be a good idea.
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[Gila]

well if the world was all well and good we would not have the hacker factor to worry about and my plan would go on but scince you are very correct i guess my idea just plan blows
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[Vuen]

[RN2804]

[Gila]

about your flail and having 6000 polys I think that OMFBG should have 2 versions: the one game to play on 400mhz/Geforce, and the one game to play on the 1.4Ghz/Geforce4.

Then the game will be accesable to the serious gamers and the ones who like to play a few games in there spare time
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[Icewing]

aren't omf:bg 'bots supposed tobe 2500 polys each for "high detail" settings??
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[Mogusha]

[Robyrt]

1. You don't need 6000 polys for a good model. Your average 3D fighters get away with that amount only because they have 2 fighters and an arena onstage, not 8 fighters with variable Net connections. BG uses 750 for low detail and 2500 for high detail, and 2500 really WILL use your GF3 if you join a multiplayer battle royale.

[Allanmenef]

It wouldn't be hacker proof, but nothing is. They could make a system that would check the money against the total earned in the fights, against the total of the opponent. Then they could make sure that you didn't suddenly earn 6,000,000 k when the match was only for 4,000 k. You could still throw a match to give a friend money, since you get more $$ than you lose. That is not hacking.

I would like to see a tournament mode like in BattleDrome, where you can "wager" on the match, and the opponet can pull out if you get too cocky. I used to be able to get my wagers PERFECT on that game. I made BUXX and had the best Herc, until I upgraded to Windows.

[LoneWolf]

grrh... Batcave shut down my site while I was away for 4 weeks, and I can't sign up again... oh well

I decided to start work on yet another Flail , though I'm having trouble getting the body right. I'll figure it out.

as for ... I have my own ideas.

Basicly, there's a special online tournament, it's free to sign up for but you don't get anything for winning. The fights are recorded, rendered in super-high quality, then put on tapes and sold to TV stations like ESPN or UPN or such. The TV stations pay DE for the tapes, air the fights, and it's like a One Must Fall style WWF or something.

DE puts nothing in(except the game)
the players get to have their fights televised, so that's payment on it's own.
the TV stations get another cheap show.
DE gets all the money.

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[Robyrt]

Lonewolf: That would work much better for VF IMHO... you can easily make 30 minutes a week of TB tournys, and you don't have to do weird stuff with camera angles like you would for BG, and you get some REALLY high-caliber stuff in Japan (people like Chibita and Kyasao have already done TV spots).

[Vuen]

Sorry guys, I guess I was kindof in the dark about the whole poly-count thing. But still, 4000 polys is still way high. If a 750 poly count is required, then you will need to optimize a LOT. My heavily unoptimized model of the original Electra for OMFWZ is 236 polys. Course, that's electra; my Nova model is 4000 polys, only cuz of the high-geom spheres at the limb joints. If I wanted to import into BG I could easily lower.

However, if the flail you're designing isn't for BG, but rather for anything that doesnt require real-time rendering, then don't even try to lower the poly count. My shadow model is 24k polys; I'm not using it real-time 3D anywhere, so it's pointless to lower the count. It would just make it look worse. It's just for 2D rendering for the game (and FMV sequences), so I'm keeping it at 24k polys. So if your flail is say for the OMF movie, then you should likely keep the high-polycount (but well-proportioned) version.

And also, I didn't manage to see any of your pics yet; I can't seen to get around the hotlink blocking on your web host. I'm not about to download opera, so is there some other way to get it to me?

Maybe you could just throw together a webpage in notepad for it. Copy-paste this into notepad and save as index.html in your website:

<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<img src="flail.jpg">
<img src="flail2.jpg">
<img src="flail3.jpg">
</body>
</html>

Try that. I'm sure you know html though, but I just put that incase you dont... I'd like to see that flail

Anyways, that TV idea is great! The only problem would be finding a TV show that would show the fights.

It would be really cool though to have matches televised. Depending on the realism of the depiction of size, it might spark a lot of interest in regular people. If the bots really do look 100-foot tall robots, it would be much more interesting that simple VF. And the scripting's not a problem, If I got the opportunity to get my BG match televised, I'd love writing a camera script for it!

However, I could just imagine something like that on paperview. I doubt many people would pay, but if it's like 50 cents then lots of kids and such might love to watch a string of BG fights, or say a half-hour of a BG knockout tournament of 8 ppl. That would be sweet. If the profit went to DE they could make a lot of cash!

And, if cash like that would roll in, I'm sure DE would build like 20k poly models of the bots (and perhaps million-poly models of the arenas) for high-renders of televised fights. Maybe all sorts of detail additions, with all sorts of rendering stuff such as super-quality dust around in the desert, or real waves like in The Perfect Storm for the Iceberg, or lots of shrapnel seen peeling off where the bot is hit...

Just a suggestion

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[This message has been edited by Vuen (edited 03-10-2002).]

[Icewing]

[PhreakyByNature]

Bringing this back... My OP regarding different angles/genres in the OMF Universe was awesome. Just saying.
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