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Vuen



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

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i have trouble understanding how you can possibly fail 19 out of 20 times in gracy :\ (i combo rk f.LK RP j.fLK, never fails


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RP definitely combos to jfLK directly (no bounce). You might not be jumping soon enough towards the opponent. I hardly ever see it fail, even in ultra-high lag..


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I can't get this to work at all. I can't even get rk flk rp to link. What am I doing wrong? Could somebody please send me a replay of rk flk rp jflk?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

rp to jflk works fine here, but I can't link flk to rp...
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FlamingMonkey



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

Works on airborne enemies only. (as suggested before, if you're trying to do that, just use RK first instead of waiting for someone to jump)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

i meant fRK LK RP j.fLK :\
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

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Works on airborne enemies only. (as suggested before, if you're trying to do that, just use RK first instead of waiting for someone to jump)


OH well ffs, that was need to know info. Here I am beating my head on the wall trying to do rp jflk on the training bot. I figured that was the problem at first cuz I could do it consistently if I hit the enemy into the air first. That link is useless for using rp as a priority move against ground attacks. However I'll put it in there since I'm adding tactics against air opponents and all. I still can't get rk flk rp to link; I'm pretty sure flk is supposed to cut the rk animation short the same way lk cuts frk short, only it doesn't. Anyway I'll work on that. Thanks all.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

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Works on airborne enemies only. (as suggested before, if you're trying to do that, just use RK first instead of waiting for someone to jump)


OH well ffs, that was need to know info. Here I am beating my head on the wall trying to do rp jflk on the training bot. I figured that was the problem at first cuz I could do it consistently if I hit the enemy into the air first. That link is useless for using rp as a priority move against ground attacks. However I'll put it in there since I'm adding tactics against air opponents and all. I still can't get rk flk rp to link; I'm pretty sure flk is supposed to cut the rk animation short the same way lk cuts frk short, only it doesn't. Anyway I'll work on that. Thanks all.


i think he meant RK fLK RP, RP > j.fLK works on ground opponents.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

Okay... Does in work on front only or back too? How close do you have to be? What game speed do you play on? What brand of keyboard do you have? I still can't figure out why this doesn't work for me. If it's my keyboard I'll break it clean in half.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

my cousin did that Vuen, he fractured his knee. I recon keyboard manufacturers are forseing the fustration of their clients and making tougher keyboards for the job :crazy:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

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Okay... Does in work on front only or back too? How close do you have to be? What game speed do you play on? What brand of keyboard do you have? I still can't figure out why this doesn't work for me. If it's my keyboard I'll break it clean in half.


RP - j.fLK always works for me, I was speaking before of the flK-RP combo briefly mentioned.
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Vuen



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

Okay all, rp jflk doesn't link, unless you use it in a combo. frk lk rp jflk will link; just plain rp jflk will not. Try it yourself if you don't believe me.

In the meantime I'm working on this Force guide again. I'm basically stripping most of the juggles off of the given combos and adding an air juggles section. I've also started on the Movement section, and separated the attacks section into vs air and vs ground. So far so good; I'll upload soon.

Oh, and I renamed it to Advanced Guide to Force until I can find a better title :p
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

I figured that much, much often have a longer cooldown when used outside of a combo Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

I figured that much, much often have a longer cooldown when used outside of a combo Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

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I figured that much, much often have a longer cooldown when used outside of a combo Very Happy


Mad Sure you did Tuffy. See, if everyone had bothered to read the guide before going on about how rp links to jflk, you would have realized that the place FM was talking about where I say rp doesn't link to jflk is when you START!!!!!!! with RP. That's the whole point of having an RP combo, because you start with it!

I appreciate your input, but for [filtered] sakes, quit trying to look like you know everything. That's why I asked for a replay as soon as somebody mentioned the link, because I knew something was up. I was beating my head on the wall for a week until FM finally sent me a replay, because nobody bothered to mention that when they're trying it they do it in a combo.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

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I figured that much, much often have a longer cooldown when used outside of a combo Very Happy


Mad Sure you did Tuffy. See, if everyone had bothered to read the guide before going on about how rp links to jflk, you would have realized that the place FM was talking about where I say rp doesn't link to jflk is when you START!!!!!!! with RP. That's the whole point of having an RP combo, because you start with it!

I appreciate your input, but for [filtered] sakes, quit trying to look like you know everything. That's why I asked for a replay as soon as somebody mentioned the link, because I knew something was up. I was beating my head on the wall for a week until FM finally sent me a replay, because nobody bothered to mention that when they're trying it they do it in a combo.


:sweat2: you sure do appreciate the input, that much is for sure...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: New Force Guide Reply with quote

Cool I just did a easy 50 hit combo with Force.

make both bombs and stand right beside opponent
d+rp (throw), make RP bombo, a.RK, fRK , LK, Super Bomb, fLK, RP, LP(meteor), RK, j.fLK, a.fLP, a.fRP, LP, j.fRK, a.LK, Super or reg Gravity Well, fLP, fRP, Repulsor.

should be about ~ 50 hits sometimes you don't get all the hits with the bomb super

this is not really my combo mix of 2 people's but its neat
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