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TheUnknownFactor



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

Yeah honestly i dont care much about fragmenting, even though i still consider it a balance issue/game bug, thinking pyros LK is over powered also doesnt stop me from using it..

So here it is:
you can open the combo with either a.RK a.LK or a.RP, so take your pick.

Ill go with a.RP for now.
A.RP > LK > RP > RK > LCC > j.fRK > a.RK*1 > fLP > fRP >*2 Jump > OT > front evade > a.LK > fRP > fLK > fRK > LP....

Notes:
*1 can be replaced with a.LK
*2 fragment occurs here

and so on and so forth... Im pretty sure you can make some sick combinations out of this. Have fun. (i havent tried this online yet)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

All that with a standing oponent?!?!?!?!?!?!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

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All that with a standing oponent?!?!?!?!?!?!


everything up until the OT, yes.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

*wuvs Jaguar*
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

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*wuvs Jaguar*


*Loves the contrast between him and Discomb*
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

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*wuvs Jaguar*


*Loves the contrast between him and Discomb*


I dont actually like Jag. I like HARs with tricks up their sleeve, like Chronos and Gargoyle. But so many moves without knocking him down is very very admirable.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

Evil!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

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Evil!


Without a doubt, however when using a faster pilot you may have trouble comboing out of OT, esspecially if you're on AD rush, mainly because your evade might bring you too far towards the ground.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

The combo resets twice? How would that not outright kill someone...


Furthermore, as far as I can tell; flp > frp ! tickOT; does not work reliably on most hars (basically only jag vs jag).

The frp pushes you back too much to get over bigger HARs. You can do it on gargoyle easily though, and he's the only HAR that can really force you to abuse tick throws (because he can be played so defensively).


If the FRP connects (as in a combo) then sure, but if you're just spamming. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

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The combo resets twice? How would that not outright kill someone...


No it doesnt, read the comments, the first * isnt a fragment, though you could ofcourse fragment it upto 4/5 times using beserker dash evade + fragment.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

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The combo resets twice? How would that not outright kill someone...


No it doesnt, read the comments, the first * isnt a fragment, though you could ofcourse fragment it upto 4/5 times using beserker dash evade + fragment.


What the [filtered] are you talking about?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

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The combo resets twice? How would that not outright kill someone...


No it doesnt, read the comments, the first * isnt a fragment, though you could ofcourse fragment it upto 4/5 times using beserker dash evade + fragment.


What the [filtered] are you talking about?


The only fragment i stated in post 1 is the fRP > Jump > OT.

However if you wish to fragment more often, you could:
(Every [enter] is a fragment/reset)
a.LK > LK > RP > RK > LCC > BD
a.(L/R)Evade > a.LK > LK > RP > RK > LCC > BD
a.(L/R)Evade > a.LK > LK > RP > RK > LCC > BD
a.(L/R)Evade > a.LK > LK > RP > RK > LCC > J.fRK > a.RK > fLP > fRP
Jump > OT > a.(F)Evade > a.fRK > fRP > fLK > fRK > LP > j.fLK > a.LP > j.fRP > a.fLP > a.RK > a.LK > fLP > (LP)Leap > Beserker dash

Fragment it 4 times, having a higher focus pilot you could easily do the beserker evade fragment another time.

And im sure that last part of the combo could somehow have LK RP RK, however your opponent would be dead anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

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a.LK > LK > RP > RK > LCC > BD
a.(L/R)Evade > a.LK > LK > RP > RK > LCC > BD
a.(L/R)Evade > a.LK > LK > RP > RK > LCC > BD
a.(L/R)Evade > a.LK > LK > RP > RK > LCC > J.fRK > a.RK > fLP > fRP
Jump > OT > a.(F)Evade > a.fRK > fRP > fLK > fRK > LP > j.fLK > a.LP > j.fRP > a.fLP > a.RK > a.LK > fLP > (LP)Leap > Beserker dash


I'm gonna make a video of that. That would literally be 1500+ damage.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

Ive been waiting for someone to say that AND do it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: Nice Jaguar fragment Reply with quote

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Ive been waiting for someone to say that AND do it Very Happy


Its not that hard, just make sure your opponent doesnt die during a BDash, the fRP > j.OT fragment is fast enough, even if he's dead, you'll still have him.
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