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CloudFFVII · Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 360 Location: U.K.

Vuen lol with mods you can change the bugs yourself (apparantly). simply Modify mantis to your hearts content.
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Vuen · Joined: 31 Aug 1999 Posts: 4968 Location: Canada

Yeah and how many people will want to play my idea of what's balanced as opposed to anyone else's? The last thing I'd ever to is make up my own balance mod to the game.

Besides, what makes everybody think it's so darn easy to fix these bugs? DE's been at this for 6 years, and every half-baked parents' garage programmer thinks they can come in and whiff out the bugs themselves? Please.

Wraiyth · Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 2:44 am Post subject: Re: The Fragment Issue

CloudFFVII · Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 360 Location: U.K.

ok A) it was a half sarcastic remark. B) when did i say it was easy.
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Wraiyth · Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:04 am Post subject: Re: The Fragment Issue

SIMPLY modify...

Robyrt · Joined: 09 Sep 1999 Posts: 7606 Location: Virginia, USA

I dunno, I think "simple" and "easy" mean two different things in modern parlance, because it's easy to conceive of a difficult yet simple task: for example, hitting the space bar 50000 times.

On balance mods: The only successful balance mods I know of are group efforts, with a lot of man-hours spent playtesting and pimping their version of the game. Most changes are also harder than they look.

So on a related note, which do you guys think would be better to balance Mantis sidepunch, which admittedly owns the rest of the sidepunches in the game?
1. Prevent it from trading hits with things by making it disappear when Mantis is hit (i.e. make it a physical attack that just looks like a projectile)
2. Prevent it from starting combos by making it knock sideways
3. Leave as is, beef up all other side attacks to compensate

Wraiyth · Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 3:37 am Post subject: Re: The Fragment Issue

Does the spacebar ave to be hit 50000 times, or can you hold it down?
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CloudFFVII · Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 360 Location: U.K.

i think the mantis side punch should hit further to the side, thats the only main difference between mantis' and gargoyle's side punches. (that and gargoyle's base hit damage is increadably underpowered considering the strength of his supers)

Supertalon for example is an insanely damaging move
SuperGlide great for crowd control with few weaknesses and can hit behind quite easilu
Superscream lol not so good could be made a much more useful move by a slight increase in range
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Lurker · Joined: 26 May 2003 Posts: 4696 Location: The underworld

Discomb · Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 4262 Location: Beijing, China

You know whats a horrible fragment move, but does insane damage? Warlord's LK. With Right Hook:
a.LK > a.RP > fLP > fRP ! LK > RP > Right Throw > fLK > fRK > fLP > fRP > whatever.
That is extremely punishable while he is in the air, but glance at the damage..........
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