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Mordax

Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 1584 Location: Mars
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject: Free For All |
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Most of you might not know this but Free For All can be realy exciting, unpredictable and fun all at once
It may not have the same merits of 1v1 play but its deffinitly worth getting into
Here is my current analysis of several HARs in FFA to help people get started
Pyros:
Pyros is most effective inside the crowd, relieing on Firespin and other Omni-Hits, you have to be careful not to get carried away else you may loose track of things and end up in a very bad situation
Jaguar:
Jag here is a predator, it relies on splitting people off from a crowd and dueling for as long as possible before getting sucked in, Jag Leaps give a fast way in and out of the crowd, Side Attacks are very useful
Mantis:
Mantis is like a cross between Pyros and Jag here, it can work in both stratagies but not as well
Once I get better with other HARs I can post stuff up for them too, but do give FFA a chance, even against AIs it is great |
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FlamingMonkey

Joined: 30 Jul 2002 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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I don't think Mantis is really the in-betweener there. I'd say that it's more towards the Jaguar side, relying on speed and maneuvering to handle crowds, with a couple crowd control attacks as a bonus.
Heck, Katana can behave in both ways at the same time.  |
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Sidious

Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 188
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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Yup...had a good match like that today.
Comob chronos wall bounce and hit jaguar kill chronos kill jag.
It was hard to see what I was doing...I love Neo Vegas... _________________ Sidious/Soidanae
More singleplayer.... |
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mrsiezen

Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 1210 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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Heh,
that wasn't fair! I don't like Kat in Neo...
It was funny though that while I was running towards the other side (we were with 3, and I spawned on the other side) Kamahl fell for that first off-wall attack EVERY time
Though it almost seemed to me that attack is almost unblockable! Sometimes I saw it coming, and tried to block it. Many times that failed
It was a fun fight though! _________________ P4 CPU 2.4 Ghz, 512 MB RAM 333Mhz
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Sidious

Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 188
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:58 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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The unblocking may have only been lag-remember, I was host, too. _________________ Sidious/Soidanae
More singleplayer.... |
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Endy

Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 4079 Location: Lost within my own thoughts.
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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10 steps to win ANY FFA fight with ANY number of people.
1) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
2) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
3) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
4) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
5) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
6) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
7) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
Backstab as appropriate, but only when it doesn't put you in direct danger of retaliation. Never perform long combos regardless of the situation. Deliver 2-3 heavy moves and then get safe.
9) Don't make yourself a target, be just active enough not to draw undue attention to yourself but not agressive enough to endanger yourself.
10) If you get double teamed then backwalk away untill the other two are inadvertenly hitting eachother while trying to attack you. Chances are they will immediatley turn on eachother.
Don't let them sandwich you or play monkey in the middle or you are dead almost instantly. Keep them side by side so they will inadvertently damage eachother when attacking you.
Also if one is considerably more skilled or agressive try to use him as a shield while the other lags behind.
Milano is an excellent FFA pilot, as is Maelstorm and Kegan. You will find that Milano and Maelstorm have an advantage early on, while Kegan will let you beat the last guy easier if he has a good portion of health left.
So basically if it's all noobs pick Milano, if there is another good person there... use Kegan. Either way, Maelstorm is a safe bet. _________________ "I reject your reality, and substitute my own!" - Adam Savage (MythBusters)
"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone." - Bill Cosby |
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CloudFFVII

Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 360 Location: U.K.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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Quote: | 1) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
2) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
3) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
4) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
5) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
6) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
7) Let the others fight then kill the survivor.
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yeh and what about FFA Demolition?? try those slightly 'tactical/coward' stratageis there and u'll just lose by miles *shrug*. also you'l find if you wait for the survivor that if they just won all that they are pretty [filtered] good and more than likely have an adrenaline rush to boot. _________________ Favourite Pilot: Reece
Favourite HAR: Pyros
Favourite Arena: Desert |
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TheUnknownFactor

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 13825 Location: Netherlands, Drenthe, Assen
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:34 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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FFA demolition? even easier, just pick warlord and keep mashing LP, it doesnt matter if others kick your [filtered], your score will still be better. Oh and a super grapple on 2 opponents does miracles for highest hitcount and damage combos.  _________________
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CloudFFVII

Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 360 Location: U.K.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:58 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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All hars have uber moves in FFA Demolition with the possible exception of Jaguar - Chronos (i know this will be debated) Super Stasis - Force Blackhole - Katana bladestorm - Pyros (all his supers) - Gargoyle Super glide - Mantis Super spiders/Super slide (if u pick up 2 people ur laughing) - Warlord super claw/mace
All these moves can be used to devastating effect in FFA demolition, also combos of over 3 hits in length are perfectly acceptable just make sure u get out of the crowd to do it. (Jag - run in over head throw the group very likely to grab someone Jag leap out of the fighting then nail the one uve seperated).
FFA is great fun unless every1 pairs off and gets shirty for u 'interfering' in their 1v1's _________________ Favourite Pilot: Reece
Favourite HAR: Pyros
Favourite Arena: Desert |
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TheUnknownFactor

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 13825 Location: Netherlands, Drenthe, Assen
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:03 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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Theres not 1 single HAR that has 1 attack even close to as good as Warlord LP is in demolition FFA. It takes serious effort defeating someone thats abusing the warlord LP in demolition, let alone FFA Demolition. I remember a fight where Meowbeast was severely kicking my warlord [filtered] while i was spamming LP, still i won the match 3000 points ahead of him, out of 10k points. _________________
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veryorkish

Joined: 23 May 2003 Posts: 3196 Location: Here!....Wait, no! There!
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:30 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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I think I have to agree with Tuffy on this one, a high power Warlord is unstopable in demolition... |
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CloudFFVII

Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 360 Location: U.K.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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TBH id just shoot the warlord from afar *shrug* pyros flamethrower would make short work of him, and could you ask for a better SCC target, also LEFT evade and super slide mantis could benifit, chronos can just back tele kick to put warlord in the dirt or super tele if he has the energy, katana would have problems but can just sonic blade his [filtered], force counter and combo, gargoyle...super talon lol. Basically in Demo with warlod abusing LP id just keep my distance from him concentrate on others, tbh its easy enuf to beat some1 once you know how to avoid a move. especially if that move is the only one they use lol (Da ja vu, weve had this discussion oh yeh Pyros' LK) _________________ Favourite Pilot: Reece
Favourite HAR: Pyros
Favourite Arena: Desert |
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TheUnknownFactor

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 13825 Location: Netherlands, Drenthe, Assen
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:41 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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However, because this isnt LMS, but this is Demolition, avoiding him isnt going to do any good, because he'll just find someone else, and still gain score much faster then you. And were not even talking about FFA here, plus LP attacks all around, back attacks and the likes wouldnt work. _________________
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CloudFFVII

Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 360 Location: U.K.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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just done the warlord masters again that lp is nice but the A.I. can nail u badly for abusing it if they can punish u for it we should be able to punish each other for it just as easily. _________________ Favourite Pilot: Reece
Favourite HAR: Pyros
Favourite Arena: Desert |
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TheUnknownFactor

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 13825 Location: Netherlands, Drenthe, Assen
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Free For All |
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Quote: | just done the warlord masters again that lp is nice but the A.I. can nail u badly for abusing it if they can punish u for it we should be able to punish each other for it just as easily. |
Warlord master is NOT demolition, and AI are far from humans. AI Can also counter way better then most humans, face spam is a joke VS AI, where as its one of the most powerful "tactics" vs humans. _________________
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