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Lurker

Joined: 26 May 2003 Posts: 4696 Location: The underworld
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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im guessing he is meaning the Right Insect Strike
aka
Rk Slide
keys = f, f + rk _________________
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veryorkish

Joined: 23 May 2003 Posts: 3196 Location: Here!....Wait, no! There!
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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I've found most mantis players extremely easy to counter... prolly cause combo resets don't do much good hahah |
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ouch

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 501 Location: In a Mantis :)
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:59 am Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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Amateurs! lol j/k
actually you guys are makeing some mistakes that most newbie mantis players make. but I'll let you guys figure out what them are as that is the fun of playing omf.
oh heck I'll give you one on the house never start a combo with rk.... ever. the AI will show you why, even a crappy player like norman will show you why it's a bad idea. and that's just one reason not to do it.
oh and just for bragging rights as long as were talking about mantis combos. I developed a new spinoff of my original combo that does more damage than ever, easier for me to execute on you and is harder to evade the first part. and still manages the 200+ damage you all have come to know and love  _________________ "Float like a Mantis, sting like a Cheatlord..."
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TheUnknownFactor

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 13825 Location: Netherlands, Drenthe, Assen
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:28 am Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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if it does 200+ damage in mantis, its fragmented (unless using an extremely high power pilot) _________________
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Endy

Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 4079 Location: Lost within my own thoughts.
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:28 am Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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Quote: | Amateurs! lol j/k
actually you guys are makeing some mistakes that most newbie mantis players make. but I'll let you guys figure out what them are as that is the fun of playing omf.
oh heck I'll give you one on the house never start a combo with rk.... ever. the AI will show you why, even a crappy player like norman will show you why it's a bad idea. and that's just one reason not to do it.
oh and just for bragging rights as long as were talking about mantis combos. I developed a new spinoff of my original combo that does more damage than ever, easier for me to execute on you and is harder to evade the first part. and still manages the 200+ damage you all have come to know and love |
BEST MANTIS STARTER: f.LK > RP
The priority and speed is unbeatable and the hits are WAY too fast to be countered I love it.
Plus the physics of the move are fricking incredible, it pulls AWAY from them when it's warming up (like pyros RP) then it pushes the har forward MORE then it pulls bakc + RP pushes you forward too and is never beaten by any move.
f.lp > f.rp is also exceptional for confusing people _________________ "I reject your reality, and substitute my own!" - Adam Savage (MythBusters)
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TheUnknownFactor

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 13825 Location: Netherlands, Drenthe, Assen
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:32 am Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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Endy that snt by any means a great starter... fLK doesnt even have high priority. _________________
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FlamingMonkey

Joined: 30 Jul 2002 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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fLP fRP is frustrating. The fLP pokes pretty far and the fRP catches in a semicircle or more around Mantis. :ooo: |
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Vuen
Joined: 31 Aug 1999 Posts: 4968 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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Quote: | Endy that snt by any means a great starter... fLK doesnt even have high priority. |
Even so, the pullback part is extremely useful. It's also like Force lk, another excellent starter that is all too often looked over. I can't say for sure if Mantis flk is that good, but I can say that if it's anything like Force lk then it's gold. |
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IcoN
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 1325 Location: Behind Blue Eyes
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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Lol, jesus. So much digging for what I already knew, heh.
I should have made one of those 'Mantis guides' in the same fashion that Endy made his Jaguar document, back in the day.
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Player

Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 1344 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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Endy, your combos all start with RK.
That's bad because you want to start your combos with heavy hits. RK is like two light hits.
Mantis only has 5 heavy hits (6 if you include Spit)... LK, RP, LP, ALK, and ARK.
You can significantly increase damage when you start with heavy attacks.
My combo for example...
LK, ARK, ALK, RP, LP, RK, FRK, AFRP, AFLP, (hold forward for a bit) ALP, Super Flies, FLK, FRP, FLP, LK Slide, Super Slide, Spit.
I'm pretty sure I could fit one more move in there. In fact, I shall do that now.
Edit:
Yeah it's 43 hits, 201 damage with Kegan vs. Training Bot.
After Adrenaline Rush. |
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TheUnknownFactor

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 13825 Location: Netherlands, Drenthe, Assen
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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Personally i like starting with RP, since its good for facespamming and also easy to fragment into.
Example facespam: RP > RP > RP
Example fragment: a.LK > Left Spit > LP > RK > fRK > fLP > fRP *>* RP
(*>* = fragment)
Then:
RP LK a.LK *wait* a.RK LP RK _________________
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CloudFFVII

Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 360 Location: U.K.
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:30 am Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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lk a.rk wont work on all hars or when using low agil pilots.
I find the best combo start (on a non stunned opponent) is flp, rp, lk, a.lk, a.rk, a.l/rp, a.flp, a.frp, lp, rk, right insect strike/super slide. _________________ Favourite Pilot: Reece
Favourite HAR: Pyros
Favourite Arena: Desert |
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Player

Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 1344 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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I have two main combos. I just thought we were showing off our highest damage combo.
On a non-stunned opponent, I use RP, LP, RK, FRK, AFRP, AFLP, ARK, ALK, AFLP, AFLP.
The AFLPs are there so they don't evade.
You can also fit in a Super Slide after RK, then do a FRK after the Slide and continue from there. |
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CloudFFVII

Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 360 Location: U.K.
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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thats much more impressive player, imo i cant think of anywhere thats evadeable at least till a.rk after that im not so sure and after extensive practice against my friend last nite (for about 2 hours on his server) i can say that rp - lk is truely a dreadful way to start a combo as opponent can evade after lk which means u have to a.lk to get to them and then a.fl/rp but if they have done a side evade you are more than likely to drop them after that.
anymove - rp - lk is even worse as 90% of the time lk wont connect as they can evade after the rp. _________________ Favourite Pilot: Reece
Favourite HAR: Pyros
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TheUnknownFactor

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 13825 Location: Netherlands, Drenthe, Assen
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: 35-40 hit mantis combo |
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no, if you use a backevade after the LK, any evade will be auto locked on to. and esspecially with a pilot that has over 50% speed, they can't evade (unless they have ~ 100% speed) _________________
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