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[ouch]

*senses his name in the thread*

Mantis is not overpowered, I really don't understand why people continue to argue this. a good mantis player can get owned by a great force player. and a good force player can get owned by a great mantis player. it's like that for all the hars.

what it boils down to is if you have the skill required to take down the har standing in front of you. as well as the har fighting style, you also have to deal with the pilot's individual fighting style. (yes, even AI players have very different fighting styles which is a testimate to DE's craftsman ship in the game) This results in a perpetualy complex chain of possible weaknesses and strengths for each har, and every har pilot.

the point is that the game is all about tactics, stratagy, and timeing. each har/pilot combination requires a different set of each of the above.
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"Float like a Mantis, sting like a Cheatlord..."

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scientifically engineered to hate StarForce

[veryorkish]

Oh? If that really is the case why do you play mantis exclusivly?

[FlamingMonkey]

[Xaronth]

[Discomb]

wasn't that Meowbeast? Sorry if I'm mixing things up
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[FlamingMonkey]

[Discomb]

[FlamingMonkey]

It's okay, I failed to notice it as well. Pointing the hypocrisy out would've saved me the trouble of trying to explain that not all HARs are created equal.

[ouch]

I'm not saying the game is perfect. it's definately got some game breaking bugs and abuses.

I play mantis because I feel it suits me better than the other hars. It's not that I feel it's over powered or anything. I just feel "in tune" with it, as strange as that may sound. It's the same reason I play Unreal Tournament over Quake. it's the same reason I drive a Mustang over a SUV. it's the same reason why I like dogs better than cats...

offline, I do play some cheatlord, and jag. and sometimes I'll play these online if I'm getting bored, or I see there is no chance for you to win against me in a mantis.

I call cheatlords, cheatlords because the fact they can do over 150 damage in a 3 hit combo. and some of thier moves make them move like lightning dispite DE's obvious attemps at balanceing them towards being cumbersome. (F+LP should not have existed on this har. that dash is just too fast, and is used for positioning more than for the damage it does) and it has the most combo resets (more importantly resetting the percent of damage done per hit) of any other har. they also have 4 different supers, where everyone else has 3. need I go on?
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"Float like a Mantis, sting like a Cheatlord..."

ouch

scientifically engineered to hate StarForce

[Discomb]

Also big and easy to hit with your eyes closed. Warlords are always the most fun for me to fight because I know they can't avoid me, while I can avoid them.
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[Lurker]

[veryorkish]

Actually Force has 4 supers too, sides the super grenade launcher is anything but super.

[FlamingMonkey]

Let's also keep in mind that if they made every single one of Warlord's moves slow, he wouldn't be able to hit any of the fast HARs for lack of opportunity. He [filtered] needs some quick attacks to make up for his pathetic walking, jumping, and special attack speeds. I don't see why dealing with fast attacks is a problem with you, Ouch; they're on every HAR, regardless of how poorly you think the moves fit on this particular one. Did you expect to be fighting a ridiculously handicapped, immovable rock? Because I'm sure you can mod one in sometime. :smirk:

[Discomb]

Warlord == walking fortress.
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[FlamingMonkey]

That idea goes to [filtered] once you realize that it's still a fighting game.