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xavior · Joined: 11 May 2011 Posts: 23

Raven: I'm not averse to a little improvisation. I'm also considering adding some new HARs to the game (Mantis from OMF:BG is one, but I dunno if using that game's IP would go over too well).

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xavior · Joined: 11 May 2011 Posts: 23

raptor · Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject:

Couple of suggestions for communication and web related things.

1: Use this forum, it is where everyone gathers that still have any interest in omf, and as I've mentioned a thousand times before, splitting people up even further between more forums serves no purpose.

And if you absolutely insist on having a own forum I can setup a base phpbb forum easily enough (Already hosting 2 or 3 forums, so why not another one...)

2: I'm not a web guru by any means, but I can setup sub-domains on my own domains fairly easy. Though I still haven't figured out how to setup accounts for anyone but myself to edit and fix and stuff, so would probably be stuck with me having to update and upload files etc.

On another note, it is good to see you are making progress, but from what I was reading at the booth, are you certain you're not biting on more than you can chew ?

Feature Creep is the doom of projects after all. That, and as Ravo mentioned, lacking communication (Which is another grand reason to use this forum).

-rap out,
Yonder old goat.
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Raven · Joined: 14 Oct 2000 Posts: 6378 Location: Sriniskal

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xavior · Joined: 11 May 2011 Posts: 23

Raven · Joined: 14 Oct 2000 Posts: 6378 Location: Sriniskal

Actually, it's good to have some sort of separate forum for development of the game. You don't see any forums where devs explicitly talk about their game engine, bugs they find, features they add, and their general day to day activity. For something this small you don't need (or really want) a completely private forum for 2 devs and a modeller. But you do want somewhere separate so that you don't have everyone interested hounding you with dev related questions you don't have time to answer.

I took a look at Milkshape 3d, the software Hawki_ice is using for the project. How on Earth did he manage to create a model of Shadow using that? To me that is like putting together a motorcycle with a swiss army knife and some duct tape. I'll stick with Blender and Wings and just hope I can export my work to a useful format.
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Raven · Joined: 14 Oct 2000 Posts: 6378 Location: Sriniskal

Spent an hour today and made this:

Don't look now, it's the power plant! Complete with close to true textures and scale. Of coures I have no idea what's compatible with their game engine, but I'm assuming this isn't. It comes out of a 3d modeller, animator, and game engine called Werkkzeug 3.
I spent a little time in Blender and succeeded in making Pyros move, don't know if I can export that either. Not just posing the mesh, but real animation with key frames and a skeleton. Quite easy compared to when I tried animation half a decade ago. Not proficient yet, but getting there.
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xavior · Joined: 11 May 2011 Posts: 23

Raven · Joined: 14 Oct 2000 Posts: 6378 Location: Sriniskal

I've been using Werkkzeug since it's release over 10 years ago. I'm by no means proficient, but I did used to make my own tutorials for others with the first version. Werkkzeug 3 offers a lot more. It's also hopelessly incompatible with everything. You use their software to model, texture, animate, make scenes, and make the entire game or demoscene.

Anyhoo, I'm downloading Hammer 3.5 right now. Won't mess with it tonight, maybe tomorrow.
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Raven · Joined: 14 Oct 2000 Posts: 6378 Location: Sriniskal

Xavior: I know I told the importance the keeping everyone up to date, but at this point please do not post screenshots from this forum on to the booth. Some things won't make it into the game engine, for now I recommend limiting posted screenshots to those from in the game itself.

Also redid the power plant. Wings version, can be exported.

Question though: Can the original arenas be screen shotted and imported into the game as arenas themselves? It would be a quick & easy way to make placeholders for the eventually remade ones.
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xavior · Joined: 11 May 2011 Posts: 23

Sorry, didn't know you wanted it kept private. I did mention that it was an early WIP shot.

As for using the old arenas as placeholders.. if you can export the graphics, I can put em in the maps as textures. Just need JGP, BMP, whateva.. Then add them to a .WAD file (half-life wad using the great program Wally), load up Hammer 3.5 with the WAD, and place in textures.

Bean · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

This is looking cool!

xavior · Joined: 11 May 2011 Posts: 23

xavior · Joined: 11 May 2011 Posts: 23

Hey yall! I'm back!

Nothing new to report yet. I've been cleaning up some of the code for OMF and making things more expandable. With luck, I'll get some kinda of "turbo" mode equivalent in the game that lets you dynamically change the game speed (I know some people like this in the original 2097.. we'll see how feasible it is).

I'm still looking for people to help out! If you know anyone who can do graphics art, sound design, music, models, maps, animations.. please!! Send them my way. I really want this project to go through, but there's only so much I can do without the resources.

Anyhow, I'll post again when there's something new to report. Chill out there yall \o