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[raptor]

[raptor]

Todays brain-twister: What if scenario ?

Sitting looking at the poor old Thorn bot, and thinking about how dependent it is upon it's one special attack (Speed-Kick), I was pondering what if that one attack was even more awesome ? How awesome must that one attack be for the Thorn to be rightfully feared ? So I started playing with the idea, what if Thorn and Katana traded special attacks ? Speed-Kick vs Rising Blade ?

So this comes down to, according to the old ways and ratings of HAR's Katana is one of the top 2 best bots in the game, and Thorn typically hang out among the bottom 3 always. Having these two trade their signature special attacks with each others (So Thorn now has rising blade, and Katana now has Speed-Kick instead), how would this affect each bots power-level and general rating ?

The moves generally serve similar roles, both got lots of priority and some immunities, both are diagonal upward attack patterns and good against allot of the same things. But everyone agrees that the Rising Blades are the superior move because of its invulnerability for large amounts of frames. I don't think that this would actually affect their play-style a whole lot at all. And the Thorn would actually lose one approach vector (Speed-Kick air with Hyper mode) as Rising Blade does nothing to get you into a good attack position. It is however even better for defensive.

My estimate is that it would make Thorn possibly one of the best defensive bots, almost impossible to take down through the Rising Blade and long range pokes. And Katana would lose its main defensive edge for a slightly weaker variant, but gaining more offensive ability and would become a slightly more aggressive rather than all-rounded bot. I think Katana definitively would drop down one tier, and thorn.... might jump one up, but I don't know for certain, its new play-style would be a bit to strange to think about.
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[raptor]

Random thought: AI learning combos ?

Something I've always wanted to see in the game, is a way that the game picks up all combos you and AI do (intentionally or accidentically) and lists them up in its own document. Then it sortas and rates them after damage, hits, bots, etc. And then you can look through them out of game. But more interestingly, the AI start using those combos against you!

This could even be limited by a certain random factor so it doesn't always picks the best combo avilable. And the difficulty setting limiting amounts of damage and hits per combo etc. This way the easier settings could do some cute 2-3 hit combos with little damage, but as you start playing the hardest difficulties, all limitations are set asside, and if you let it hit you, you're toast!

I think that would be a very fun way to play!
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[raptor]

Today's Fun Game: Name your reasons why Shadow sucks!

Essentially, Katajakasa asked in #omf today, "Why does Shadow suck so much?". While a very subjective question, with several subjective players wanting to answer it... subjectively. (And yes, in Single Player and Tournament Mode it rocks, as does every bot)

It is nevertheless an interesting question seen from the Multi-Player perspective, where it does indeed have trouble keeping up with other HAR's, and generally considered probably the single weakest entry.

So why is it so sucky ? I'll wait and watch if anyone else wants to answer something to this, before I make any posts on this myself.
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[PhreakyByNature]

Which server is #omf on? I'm usually on SynIRC only these days... :/
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[raptor]

irc.freenode.net #omf

Ended up there as the main bunch of remaining people was already sticking around at freenode, which is a opensource/development network primarly.
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[raptor]

Just posting to say I updated all the image links, since I've re-organized the server since then.

Also direct link to web based client to the #omf chat here: http://www.omf2097.com/chat (also listed in my signature)

And I've posted up a couple of the ideas I've had in this thread on the wiki for future references, put them under my own musings on my user page: http://wiki.omf2097.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:joneirik

Still would like to hear some more response and opinions about things :)
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[Malfrex]