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[dvereb]

[3xcl4m4t10n]

I know its a little soon but i want to make a request. We badly NEED a training mode. I just rererererereonstall omf and i miss one as hell

[raptor]

[3xcl4m4t10n]

yes, there's some solutions to my probkem but still not a training mode. I need an autoguard from the dummy side after a combo break, i need select the dummy action (stand, crouch or jumping), a damage chart, no time, infinite damage and other stuff .

[raptor]

I think it is a bit of an overkill, but you could just get someone to control 2player mode for you. "just block everything I throw at you!".

I think you can calculate the damage based on numbers from the har files based on average stats. But considering that the stats vary between different pilot/npc's back and forth, it is mostly useless to have exact numbers. A "rough estimate" is generally plenty enough.

More important is the combo numbers generally.

Oh well, whenever they get around ot getting that far, I don't see anything against making a training room. I'm just more curious what to use it for.
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[katajakasa]

I opened a ticket for training mode @ https://github.com/omf2097/openomf/issues/20 . Note that this is not something that we will have time to look into for quite some time yet

Also, new physics engine for openomf in ttv-physics-experiment branch! Woohoo!

[3xcl4m4t10n]

Thanks katajakasa! I know it's not a main feature and now you more revelant thing todo.

Raptor, when i was kof 38 player, i spend more time at training than playing against CPU. And there's lot of people who prefer try to make new combos thab play the game itself.

[katajakasa]

Just thought I would pop in with an update. Right now we're rewriting some crappy code, and Vagabond is figuring out the jump/movement stuff for the bots

Mysterious Graph Of The Day:

[raptor]

Now this is stuff I like seeing! Getting movement close to the original is going to be a nightmare to get "right", but that does look promising!
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[3xcl4m4t10n]

That graph is only for Jaguar or it can be moved out to another mech? In other hand... Nvidia shield + Openomf : EPIC WIN.

[katajakasa]

All bots have their own jump curves. We derived our own equation for calculating the jumps of any mech, and it's very close to the original, so we will be going with it for the time being. It may be impossible to find the exact jump curves of the original OMF, but at least we can get so close as to not make any notable difference.

[3xcl4m4t10n]

Thank you for the info. it envolves to relearn some basics but well, i prefer omf alive and, possibility, online matches to not omf neither online.

[Vagab0nd]

For the curious, here's some more jump curve graphs:

Jaguar with different pilot agilities:



Note that this is purely a vertical trajectory graph, height/time.

However, the base agility curve does look a lot like the result of the vertical trajectory formula here:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/traj.html

Interestingly, this means that the higher your agility, the higher you jump and the *less* time you spend in the air, which is not very newtonian

Here's some more attempts at matching, using that formula with a little bit of fudging (OMF seems to have 'hang time' at the apex of the curve).

Jaguar:



Gargoyle:



Flail:



Andrew

[3xcl4m4t10n]

wow that,s graph are very interesting. would be a very cool feature add this to the game to know how your mech will be make the jumps. something like a "technical affairs" menu

[Pyronius]

That's pretty cool. I haven't been here in a while, heh.
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